Update: Post added to the Sticky Posts section above the Synth Books section on the right. For the archives this had an original time stamp of 6/23/07 12:06 AM.
Ok, the first poll on Matrixsynth. I thought it would be interesting to see how many of you are interested in the demos posted for the musical content vs. showcasing the synth vs. other. In short...
Think about this one before you vote. It's 100% anonymous and a vote for one, even "both" precludes the other. My vote? I usually listen to demos to hear what a particular synth sounds like, usually outside of the musical context, hence, why I appreciate and post demos that may not be considered "musically interesting." Quotes, because we all know that is highly subjective. Please vote and feel free to comment.
Update: The following is the list of what came in for Other:
* what the synth is capeable, osc's , wave , filter reaction and modulations
* check the quality of audio output, ie: no distorsion, low noise
* they provide more pleasure than those 10 second p*rn clips..&use less bandwidth!
* I think the demos are useless
* Never listen to the demos
* drgarbage
* i'm a bit of a nerd
* I want to see the synth in action
* F*ck Off
* I like them becauuse it gives me a cvhance to critisize them publically for it
* synth porn makes me randy!
* i listen to a whole lot of demos over and over again as i circuit bend something
* And i would like to know how all the unknown machines are sounding
* what it sounds like and everything it can do, its all about function and sound.
* sonic range
* I want to see how the synth is programmed and how it sounds.
* I like to hear about the synth, as well as hear what it sounds like.
Tuesday, June 26, 2007
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A great idea for a poll. I hope the people making demoes will consider the outcome of this poll.
ReplyDeleteI always thought that a perfect demo of a synth should be a dry recording that showcases what the synth can do and not what the 'artist' can do.
It's kind of tied to me. Really, much of what a synth can do is related to how it can be used to channel one's creative drive.
ReplyDeleteStill I do dig them all, because I'm quite easy to please I guess.
I hit both, I'm not afraid to say it!
ReplyDeleteI like seeing the synth played, I like hearing things other than the typically "light jazz" factory demos.. I also like to hear custom patches.
The only ones I dont like are the ones where it's just a guy hitting the same key over and over trying to dial in a patch.
Voted for "both" here too.
ReplyDeleteI am definitely influenced by the fact that most people are mainly interested in the synths themselves. I have a lot of original songs that I've YouTubed (with dozens more I could share), but I plan on getting back into basic demos of the synths themselves now.
Thanks for the poll! Informative.
Thanks. Yeah it is informative. I thought there would be way more votes for just music based on some of the feedback on various sample and vid posts. I'll move this post up so it stays up for a couple of days and then add it to the sticky posts on the right.
ReplyDeleteHey Dave, leave the straight synth demos to people like me who can't do anything else but that, i want to hear you rock out!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/sifkasifka2
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ReplyDeleteI get it, you post not musically interesting demos to get a feel for the sound... but most of us, I think, use synths to create music. So I guess this is more a plea to all of you out there with these amazing collections of synths: When you decide to make a demo, please include something somewhat musical along with all the crazy noise experiments that are usually up there.
I now want to open the floor to any and all flame posts labeling me "closed minded" and "unwilling to consider randomly generated noise a valid form of music"...
"most of us, I think, use synths to create music"
ReplyDeleteeuh...it's hard to not call you close minded (or an asshole) with that statement beause it's obviously meant to insult other people, maybe you think scanning through banks of patches or a synth drone is a "crazy noise experiment" but it's all welcome in my view.
And i just don't get people like you requesting things from people who post videos on Youtube or wherever, we're not at your service, we're doing it to showcase something specific, if you don't like it, just move on!
i thought you meant "demos" as in the demo button you find on old casios and such. or the demo sounds that an instrument ships with to show its capabilities. are you talking about the videos people make to show off the sounds of the synths they own? hmm...
ReplyDeleteWait, now I'm totally confused. I thought you were referring to Mars' asteroidal moon Demos. I was going to request more Phobos.
ReplyDeleteLeather goddesses of Phobos?
ReplyDeleteI think what is most interesting is a musical demo of what a particular synth can do along with straight 'academic' examples of its sounds.
ReplyDeleteThis includes stuff like old 80s music where a particular synth can be highlighted.
Least interesting are:
1) "noise" synths- I am not impressed with the endless amounts of homebrew synths that only make variations on noise and distortion. Bugbox, Little Boy Blue, etc... they aren't really synths. I can make a synth with the same value with a few 555s and op amps in a few minutes.
2) "synth wizards" playing long examples showing their hypervirtuosity
3) super short clips that don't really show anything
Hence, I voted for demos of synth sound only.
-Steve @ StreetElectronics.com
I think the results pretty much speaks for itself at this point. The majority are either interested in hearing the synth itself or the synth and it's context in music.
ReplyDeleteSynthmania's (Synthmania.com) MP3 demos are EXACTLY the kind of demos I like.
ReplyDeleteTo the point, somewhat musical, exactly what's required.
I like to hear a synth by itself but I also understand that the usefulnes of a synth is truely demonstrated in the context of a track.
ReplyDeleteOne of the most important factors for me if I like a demo is that it doesn't feature external delay/reverb or other such effects (of course this is not the case if the demo is for some outboard gear or specifically the chorus section on a synth f.e.)
ReplyDeleteReed, There can be no confusion if you spell Deimos correctly...
ReplyDelete*ducks!*
Oopsy daisy! In that case I prefer both kinds of synth Deimos.
ReplyDeleteanonymous said...
ReplyDelete2) "synth wizards" playing long examples showing their hypervirtuosity
(((hangs head in shame)))
so....how to read the "Other" respondents comments??? I see there are 12 of them as of now.
ReplyDeleteHey Dave - honestly, I would love to see some straight scientific-like demonstrations of different synths. Looks like you've got a dandy of a collection.
ReplyDeleteBut for God's sake man, don't ever stop the "hypervirtuosity 'synth wizard' videos". Those are my favorite!! :)
Yay! Thanks Wango.
ReplyDeleteLove-it/hate-it stuff is what to shoot for, really. To avoid tepidity and produce something that someone might really get into, you've got to accept that everyone else will probably hate it (assuming you even like it yourself).
That's the joy of art!
Now if you'll excuse me, I really should begin scripting another "Retarded Animal Babies" film.
I mean Wingo.
ReplyDeleteD'OH
Polls are cool, though I'm not really into the "sticky" nature of it. Maybe something a little smaller mounted off to the right?
ReplyDeleteI just updated the post with the list of what came in for Other.
ReplyDeleteOh, and the post will only stay up for today, then it will move down as new posts come up starting tomorrow. I'll add a link to it in the sticky posts on the right.
ReplyDeleteI only want to see photos. A few videos are cool but im not interested in most of the videos posted lately. I have no interest in any audio posted on here.
ReplyDeleteI like seeing what the parameters and knobs are doing either through videos or through a series of audio demos with descriptions of what they are doing.
ReplyDeleteWhen Im looking for a gear demo, Im not so much interested in how it sounds, Im interested in seeing/hearing the process of creating that sound, I want to know what those knobs do.
I want to know what happens when other gear gets mixed in.
I want to see tips and tricks and exciting ways to use that gear.
Plexuss video demo for the E13 Improbability Drive is the perfect example of what Im talking about.
I want to see synths on cats.
ReplyDeleteHeavy synths, dropped on cats.
Recorded in 24 bit 192khz.
Full frontal foley.
I find myself strangely attracted to 2 of the songs on the micro q demo page..can listen over and over! Also hooked on the pineapple demo mp3 of the korg ms-2000, Is it just me or korg demos mostly really crappy, especially when its a Rap demo with way too much swing.
ReplyDeleteAs far as ppl scrolling through patch banks I think its cool but not considered a real factory demo, both musical vids like this(CMU-800r BaCH!) or just demoing presets is informative. I'd never know how chunky a sh-1000 tube/sax could sound, never know how blippy a prophet 1 could get, or how awesome a midibox sid could sound w/o ppl just screwing around with them on youtube, half the time not even making music.
Oh cant forget about Denikribe KP3 vids on youtube, Korg should hire him already, pushes every last drop out of a KP3 in ways Korg just cant sum it up.
ReplyDeleteIf I can download a demo version that'll be the first thing I do, to check what the synth sounds like just browsing the presets (so for me it's important the presets shine and bring out the best of a synth).
ReplyDeleteBut sometimes it's good to hear if audio demos sound inspiring.
i.e. Brok Landers did a sound bank for Albino 3 and posted some clips of his work.
Great convincing promo for his work.
I really really really really hate to see middle age men noodling or kids that can't play!! However I really like to here the instruments providing the sound qualitys ok! I love the site but there are sooooo many bad videos of people noodling terribly!! Also playing the presets on a synth is also abit of a sin in my book, it would be really nice to here what sounds people have managed to get out there synths! Really usingf stantard horrible imo 80's brass sounds are really really not worth hering on most synths though what they do do is make a good basis for building a bass sound! that i would rather see!! But this boils down unfortunatly to the people who post vids on youtube so really i'm wasting my time.
ReplyDeleteI make demos specifically so that interested parties can make decisions on whether they would like to purchase the synthesizer.
ReplyDeleteWhile I use my own music for the intro (and it rarely features the synth being demonstrated), I don't use the synth in a musical context so much because you and I don't make the same sort of music, and I don't want you to base your assessment of the synth on what stupid style of music I choose to play on it.
I show you the functions and a bit of what those functions do, can do, and sound like.
You don't want to see me noodle... noodling can be done on any synthesizer by anyone. I demonstrate the synthesizer itself, not my performance interests. Seeing a person choosing their own patch desires and playing the music they like only really shows what that person can do on a synth, not what the synth is capable of.