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Thursday, December 18, 2008

DSI still Sequential Circuits


This one spotted by prophei. He downloaded the sysex for the three individual OSes for the DSI Poly Evolver Keyboard off of the DSI website. When he looked at the manufacture in the Mac OS X SysEx Librarian this is what he saw. Anyone confirm?

Update: another screen shot sent in and confirmations in the comments.

Update via wavedeforum via the comments: "The manufacturer ID is not IP that would get sold with Sequential Circuits. It is an ID issued by the MIDI Manufacturers Association. Usually a number is retired or recycled when a company ceases doing business.

Because of Dave Smith's role in getting MIDI going, he gets to keep his ID, which is 1.

It's the programs that interpret Sysex that lookup the ID and display an appropriate string that are at fault for still displaying Sequential Circuits. I would think that they should be revised to display DSI/Sequential or something similar."

also sent my way privately via Stephen via Synthwood. Pretty cool when you think of it. Dave Smith was THE man behind MIDI. SCI was first with the Prophet-600 followed by Roland with the JX-3P. I'm guessing Roland has ID #2, but I have yet to confirm this. Be sure to see the comments of this post for more.

Update via Dave Cornutt in the comments:
"Roland is not ID #2 because the IDs are divided into three groups, American, European, and Japanese. The American group starts with 1; the European group starts with 20 hex, and the Japanese group starts with 40 hex. Roland is assigned ID 41H; for reasons unknown to me Kawai was given 40H. Here's the whole original list, from "The Complete SCI MIDI", January 1984 edition (all numbers in hex):

1 Sequential
2 Big Briar
3 Octave/Plateau
4 Moog Music
5 Passport Designs
6 Lexicon
10 Oberheim

20 Bon Tempi
21 SIEL

40 Kawai
41 Roland
42 Korg
43 Yamaha

Note that both Moog Music and Big Briar were assigned IDs; I don't know which one Moog is using now."

7 comments:

  1. Dave probably just retained the MIDI Manufacturere ID portion of the sysex code.

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  2. that wouldn't go with the new rights-holder for that company? wouldn't that be owned by yamaha now (i think)?

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  3. I can confirm that it comes up as Sequential Circuits on my Evolver, too.

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  4. Yes, I noticed that too, thought it was a small joke :)

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  5. The manufacturer ID is not IP that would get sold with Sequential Circuits. It is an ID issued by the MIDI Manufacturers Association. Usually a number is retired or recycled when a company ceases doing business.

    Because of Dave Smith's role in getting MIDI going, he gets to keep his ID, which is 1.

    It's the programs that interpret Sysex that lookup the ID and display an appropriate string that are at fault for still displaying Sequential Circuits. I would think that they should be revised to display DSI/Sequential or something similar.

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  6. Roland is not ID #2 because the IDs are divided into three groups, American, European, and Japanese. The American group starts with 1; the European group starts with 20 hex, and the Japanese group starts with 40 hex. Roland is assigned ID 41H; for reasons unknown to me Kawai was given 40H. Here's the whole original list, from "The Complete SCI MIDI", January 1984 edition (all numbers in hex):

    1 Sequential
    2 Big Briar
    3 Octave/Plateau
    4 Moog Music
    5 Passport Designs
    6 Lexicon
    10 Oberheim

    20 Bon Tempi
    21 SIEL

    40 Kawai
    41 Roland
    42 Korg
    43 Yamaha

    Note that both Moog Music and Big Briar were assigned IDs; I don't know which one Moog is using now.

    ReplyDelete

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