MATRIXSYNTH: Musikmesse: Musikmesse_2010_Waldorf_PPG_V3_ALPHA.AVI


Thursday, March 25, 2010

Musikmesse: Musikmesse_2010_Waldorf_PPG_V3_ALPHA.AVI


YouTube via FrequencyTestSystem
"Völlig unerwarte Präsentierte uns Waldorf eine ALPHA Version des Waldorf PPG V3. Die Prognose weist auf eine Juni Veröffentlichung und eine Preis von €150 Euro hin. Einen Upgrade von der Waldorf Edition wird es NICHT geben!"

Googlish:
"Totally unexpected Presented us an alpha version of Waldorf Waldorf PPG V3. The forecast has a June release and a price point of € 150. An upgrade from the Waldorf Edition, it will NOT be!"

Update via Qwave in the comments: "I heard it at the Messe and talked to Wolfram Franke, the programmer of this and the old 2.V. I complained about the different aliasing since the old days of betatesting the 2.V. Now, the new version with totally changed oscillator's inside code, the high frequency sample rate of the PPG wave 2.2 and 2.3 (slightly higher) is recreated more accurate. And then downsampled to the 44 kHz or what ever you use on your computer audi interface. The difference is easy to hear. The original aliasing was well in the hearing range of everybody. So the downsampling is much like hearing the PPG wave as recorded in high digital quality of an uncompressed CD format or even better. The sounds get all the gritty harshness of the real PPG waves. And I know what I am talking about, because I used to have a 2.2 and 2.3. And a waveterm B.
Right now, only the sample loading is implemented. I don't think the world will need all those outdated and very abstract to handle sequencer stuff of the original PPG waveterm. Or the resynthesis, which only worked for a single spectrum, not for a whole sound like on the Waldorf WAVE. Or the formant mode to create a single spectrum that is calculated to fill all slots of the wavetable to use a formant corrected version of the spectrum across the keyboard. Not that much needed.
I think most PPG waveterm users used sampling, because this was the new thing then. And every body hated the sequencer, but there were not so many alternatives available to us, then now.
On display was an alpha version. So things may change. Some features might be added.
The FX section is much like the one of the Largo. So you get the 6 stage chorus as well as some long delays and a reverb. But only one FX a time per part. The PPG 3.V is of cause multitimbral as the PPG wave 2.3. : 8 sounds a time. But with the very same limitations of the real PPG wave 2.3: a multi sample is only max 8 parts and uses up all 8 multi slots (named "bank" in the PPG wave 2.3). You may load multiple instances of the plug-in, to get more sounds at the same time. Or run the old 2.V plug-in side by side with this new one."

4 comments:

  1. I'm not obsessive about the lo-fi particulars of the PPG, and the Largo and Blofeld out-spec the PPG in just about every way, so this doesn't hold much interest for me. Even the rumor I've heard about Waveterm emulation--I'd much rather have resynthesis-based user wavetables for the Largo or Blofeld.

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  2. But if you're looking for a close emulation of the PPG Wave 2.3 or 2.2, this is supposed to sound more like the original then the PPG V2! It it sounds closer to the original then, I want one! It gives you the option of having the aliasing of the 2.2 or the 2.3. :D
    I really do like the idea of having resynthesis though! I guess I'm one of the odd ones who are excited about this! LOL

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  3. I heard it at the Messe and talked to Wolfram Franke, the programmer of this and the old 2.V. I complained about the different aliasing since the old days of betatesting the 2.V. Now, the new version with totally changed oscillator's inside code, the high frequency sample rate of the PPG wave 2.2 and 2.3 (slightly higher) is recreated more accurate. And then downsampled to the 44 kHz or what ever you use on your computer audi interface. The difference is easy to hear. The original aliasing was well in the hearing range of everybody. So the downsampling is much like hearing the PPG wave as recorded in high digital quality of an uncompressed CD format or even better. The sounds get all the gritty harshness of the real PPG waves. And I know what I am talking about, because I used to have a 2.2 and 2.3. And a waveterm B.
    Right now, only the sample loading is implemented. I don't think the world will need all those outdated and very abstract to handle sequencer stuff of the original PPG waveterm. Or the resynthesis, which only worked for a single spectrum, not for a whole sound like on the Waldorf WAVE. Or the formant mode to create a single spectrum that is calculated to fill all slots of the wavetable to use a formant corrected version of the spectrum across the keyboard. Not that much needed.
    I think most PPG waveterm users used sampling, because this was the new thing then. And every body hated the sequencer, but there were not so many alternatives available to us, then now.
    On display was an alpha version. So things may change. Some features might be added.
    The FX section is much like the one of the Largo. So you get the 6 stage chorus as well as some long delays and a reverb. But only one FX a time per part. The PPG 3.V is of cause multitimbral as the PPG wave 2.3. : 8 sounds a time. But with the very same limitations of the real PPG wave 2.3: a multi sample is only max 8 parts and uses up all 8 multi slots (named "bank" in the PPG wave 2.3). You may load multiple instances of the plug-in, to get more sounds at the same time. Or run the old 2.V plug-in side by side with this new one.

    So you are not the only one being excited, UniQue Werkx.

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  4. Thank you very much for that update Till! I can't wait to get this!! :D

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